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By Countyman
#32609
Put in, then the usual wobble after a solid start. Was hoping Keogh might celebrate his contract extension with a substantial score, but good to have Rossington back (where he was always needed) and maybe Zaib can rediscover his earlier season form.
By Countyman
#32645
Thank goodness for the first innings lead, as our top order batting woes show no sign of diminishing!
By Countyman
#32653
A comfortable winning stroll by the home side put our apology of a second innings into its true context... and all that following a first innings lead of 136! Gloucs are clearly the better side and this is really no more than we deserved. Any other comments, anyone?
By onemorerun
#32655
Very poor, perhaps we have injuries, but we don't really seem to have much idea. The young wicketkeeper wasn't used as such, and seemed to just be in the team as a specialist number seven batsman. Vasconcelos appears to have gone off the boil, and I'm not sure any other team in the country would think Procter was a number 3 batsman.

It has been a very poor season in all competitions. One or two highlights, eg maiden centuries for Zaib and Gay, but generally disappointing. Given some of the advance comments coming from the club ("we have all bases covered for the t20" and "we're targeting the one day cup because we won't be weakened as much by the '100' as other teams), they should be embarrassed by the results.

Going forward, I'd ditch the idea of specialist t20 or one day players - we need a decent squad of players who can play all formats. Besides which, the so called specialists are nothing more than average (if that).
By EuroTaverner
#32658
I don't think the side is that far off to be honest.

You have to allow for the hugely thinner resources compared with other clubs and Northants did very well to give Yorks and Lancs a run for their money.

Vasconcelos may have "gone off the boil" but he's had a long season with a lot of responsibility, he averages 45 and remains a great asset.

Likes of Gay and Zaib are very much works in progress.

Charlie Thurston needs to be a regular in all formats, he was treated very strangely this season and I don't know why, chopped in and out of the side and stuffed down the order in T20 as if he was there to make up the numbers.

Freddie Heldreich is a fascinating prospect and very very young for a wrist spinner.

The T20 was a shambles as they started off with last year's formula which had already proved to be a failure/past its sell-by date. By the time things were fixed a bit it was far too late but they need to stick with the younger more dynamic white ball players next year.

The bowling is a bit thin and I would opt to sign Gavin Griffiths, who is apparently available for transfer from Leicestershire. He is the right age, 27, just the sort of player who would be freshened up at Northants, could be very effective on those seaming pitches and I doubt he would cost much either.
By onemorerun
#32660
EuroTaverner wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:28 am Northants did very well to give Yorks and Lancs a run for their money.
One Yorks match was as close as it could be - in the other one they won by 53 runs. One Lancs match was ruined by rain, in the other they beat us by 206 runs.

I do agree there are some promising young players, and I nearly wrote something similar about Thurston. It must be galling for young players to know they'll be dropped for the t20 (which, whether you like it or not, must be fun to play in, with larger crowds and maybe TV) because a number of 'old hands' have decided they fancy a game.
By Den Buckett
#32667
I think we do have the players to compete well in the Championship but as this match demonstrated again we do not have a winning mentality and I think we lack bottle. How many times do we start well, get into a good position but fail to hammer home the advantage?
By Shortlegs
#32670
Den Buckett wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:59 pm I think we do have the players to compete well in the Championship but as this match demonstrated again we do not have a winning mentality and I think we lack bottle. How many times do we start well, get into a good position but fail to hammer home the advantage?
I agree with this. The defeat against Gloucestershire, who I imagine are a side with a similar budget to ours, was the equivalent in football of losing after being 3-0 up after 60 minutes, yet the sound bites coming from Ripley don't suggest any kind of alarm when we lose in that way. That was a game we should have won and at worst drawn. Defeat in this case was a total embarassment.

I think we have some decent red ball players and one or two up and coming talents in Zaib and Gay. Thurston has been given chances this year in my opinion, but unfortunately has looked woefully out of form whenever I've seen him. To be really competitive I think we need another quality seamer (can't rely on Berg's fitness) and one more proven red ball batsman.
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