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By Shamu
#30767
So, not only is Smith the answer to our batting woes ( averaging 17 in 44 F/C innings with a highest score of 57) but he’s also a shoe in ahead of the other seamers - Madness, considering his physical frailties and any proven track record.
But, then I remembered it was yet another eulogising post by Glamman extolling Smith as our saviour.

I suspect that as Smith is in the last year of his contract, it’s last chance saloon for the lad unless he can get back on the park and perform.
By glamman
#30768
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Smith is not an opening batsman in the same way that Owen Morgan wasn't. However what set up will produce the most runs for the team? Is Lloyd going to score as many runs opening as he would do at 4? What are the options for an opener? Joe Cooke? However if you select him you woudld have to drop one of the other batsmen. Just throwing some ideas out there.
By exileKT8
#30769
For anyone who may have been moderately interested the last home grown player to score two hundreds in a game was Jonathan Hughes, (whatever happened to him ) in a high scoring game where Dan Cherry (whatever happened to him) scored a double hundred and Glamorgan still lost. Wikipedia report below. Dalrymple played for Middx in this game. If we think things are bad now, Glammy relegated from Div 1 this season P16 W1 D1 L14, some late season wins got a mid table position in the Sunday League and we were bottom of our T20 group.

25 players used, 3 overseas Elliott, Kasper and Ganguly, 2 English Wharf and Wright, the other 20 all Welshmen. Times have changed in some ways.

County Championship: Middlesex v Glamorgan (15–18 June)
Middlesex (20pts) beat Glamorgan (6pts) by six wickets

Middlesex won the match at Southgate, where only 14 wickets fell in four days, while seven centuries were hit, including a double century. After the first day was shortened by rain, Glamorgan got into their stride on the second day, Dan Cherry taking seven hours to make 226 runs – while Middlesex' best bowling figures came from Melvyn Betts, taking one for 80. Glamorgan declared on 584 for 3, and Middlesex replied in fashion, declaring on 435 for 4 in an attempt to get a result – Ed Joyce scoring 155. Three quick wickets from Alan Richardson gave Middlesex some hope of forcing Glamorgan out, but a 118-ball 84 not out from Sourav Ganguly and Jonathan Hughes' second century of the match resulted in Glamorgan setting a target of 408 in 82 overs – a rate similar to that required in a one-day cricket. However, more centuries awaited, as Ed Smith and Owais Shah took Middlesex to 380 for 1 (admittedly with Ben Hutton retired hurt), and Irishman Ed Joyce made 70 not out to see Middlesex to the target.
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By Shamu
#30770
Hughes averaged 23 in 42 First Class games and Dan Cherry averaged 26 in 40 F/C games, so their overall records suggest that their achievements in this game was something of a one off. Southgate renowned as probably the flattest wicket in the U.K. - so flat that Middlesex refused to play there as it was virtually impossible to get a result over 4 days.

Dan Cherry is now Head of Operations at Sophia Gardens - perhaps he could perform some lobotomies on our batsmen to prevent them playing across the line to straight balls and getting out L.B.W. !

(12 Glamorgan L.B.W’s in this game - time for Maynard to set the bowling machine straight and get the batsmen defending straight balls back from where they came !).
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By glamman
#30771
Agree about playing the ball back straight. It's another consequence of white ball cricket where players try and work straight balls into the leg side. Unusual to see a player who isn't leg side/bottom hand dominant. I would try to get players at the start of a 4 day innings thinking of playing with just one other person in the backyard where you just hit the ball back to the bowler and leave it if you can't.
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By Vetchetarian
#30775
exileKT8 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:02 pm For anyone who may have been moderately interested the last home grown player to score two hundreds in a game was Jonathan Hughes, (whatever happened to him ) in a high scoring game where Dan Cherry (whatever happened to him) scored a double hundred and Glamorgan still lost. Wikipedia report below. Dalrymple played for Middx in this game. If we think things are bad now, Glammy relegated from Div 1 this season P16 W1 D1 L14, some late season wins got a mid table position in the Sunday League and we were bottom of our T20 group.

25 players used, 3 overseas Elliott, Kasper and Ganguly, 2 English Wharf and Wright, the other 20 all Welshmen. Times have changed in some ways.

County Championship: Middlesex v Glamorgan (15–18 June)
Middlesex (20pts) beat Glamorgan (6pts) by six wickets

Middlesex won the match at Southgate, where only 14 wickets fell in four days, while seven centuries were hit, including a double century. After the first day was shortened by rain, Glamorgan got into their stride on the second day, Dan Cherry taking seven hours to make 226 runs – while Middlesex' best bowling figures came from Melvyn Betts, taking one for 80. Glamorgan declared on 584 for 3, and Middlesex replied in fashion, declaring on 435 for 4 in an attempt to get a result – Ed Joyce scoring 155. Three quick wickets from Alan Richardson gave Middlesex some hope of forcing Glamorgan out, but a 118-ball 84 not out from Sourav Ganguly and Jonathan Hughes' second century of the match resulted in Glamorgan setting a target of 408 in 82 overs – a rate similar to that required in a one-day cricket. However, more centuries awaited, as Ed Smith and Owais Shah took Middlesex to 380 for 1 (admittedly with Ben Hutton retired hurt), and Irishman Ed Joyce made 70 not out to see Middlesex to the target.
Dan Cherry turned his maiden first class century into a double hundred. One of only 4 players, I believe, to have achieved this feat for Glamorgan.
By eastsidedevil
#30786
exileKT8 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:02 pm For anyone who may have been moderately interested the last home grown player to score two hundreds in a game was Jonathan Hughes, (whatever happened to him ) in a high scoring game where Dan Cherry (whatever happened to him) scored a double hundred and Glamorgan still lost. Wikipedia report below. Dalrymple played for Middx in this game. If we think things are bad now, Glammy relegated from Div 1 this season P16 W1 D1 L14, some late season wins got a mid table position in the Sunday League and we were bottom of our T20 group.

25 players used, 3 overseas Elliott, Kasper and Ganguly, 2 English Wharf and Wright, the other 20 all Welshmen. Times have changed in some ways.

County Championship: Middlesex v Glamorgan (15–18 June)
Middlesex (20pts) beat Glamorgan (6pts) by six wickets

Middlesex won the match at Southgate, where only 14 wickets fell in four days, while seven centuries were hit, including a double century. After the first day was shortened by rain, Glamorgan got into their stride on the second day, Dan Cherry taking seven hours to make 226 runs – while Middlesex' best bowling figures came from Melvyn Betts, taking one for 80. Glamorgan declared on 584 for 3, and Middlesex replied in fashion, declaring on 435 for 4 in an attempt to get a result – Ed Joyce scoring 155. Three quick wickets from Alan Richardson gave Middlesex some hope of forcing Glamorgan out, but a 118-ball 84 not out from Sourav Ganguly and Jonathan Hughes' second century of the match resulted in Glamorgan setting a target of 408 in 82 overs – a rate similar to that required in a one-day cricket. However, more centuries awaited, as Ed Smith and Owais Shah took Middlesex to 380 for 1 (admittedly with Ben Hutton retired hurt), and Irishman Ed Joyce made 70 not out to see Middlesex to the target.
Last I saw Jonny Hughes after many years playing for Pontypridd in Division one of the then Glam and Mon league - (is that he turns out for Hopkinstown in Division 4. I bet not many Division 4 bowlers enjoy that prospect!!
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