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By glammysupporter
#26552
Right decision.

In professional sport you cannot have a season lke that and expect to keep your job.

In other sports it would have happened sooner.

I favour a DOC from outside to work with Matthew as Head Coach (if he wants it)

They need to be given a decent budget so we can sign some proper players who can play at this level.
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By Vetchetarian
#26553
glammysupporter wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:23 pm
Right decision.

In professional sport you cannot have a season lke that and expect to keep your job.

In other sports it would have happened sooner.

I favour a DOC from outside to work with Matthew as Head Coach (if he wants it)

They need to be given a decent budget so we can sign some proper players who can play at this level.
"Right decision", indeed.

Croft has been a terrific servant of the Club, and his on field playing achievements put him up there with the all time greats, but he is now paying the price for having overseen an abysmal period as Coach.
The writing has been on the wall for some time, and his departure is rather overdue.
No hard feelings Robert, but it's time for both you, and the Club, to move on.

So, who's next ? Watch this space.
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By hujon64
#26554
Just read that Croft has gone which was to be expected but quite sad that such a proud Welshman and past Glamorgan player who remained loyal to the Club throughout his career should go but that’s professional sport and success is all important. I wish him well. Thought he might have been sidelined into a youth role but money for a new DOC is all important. I presume that will be advertised immediately followed quickly by Head Coach role so all change well ahead of the new season.
By djronnieb65
#26555
Let’s hope the cull continues
Crofty was a great player for the club but had major failings in other aspects of the game
He failed as a captain and then he failed as a coach aswell
I wish him well and maybe he will get back on sky tv
We now need to cull the other coaches who have not contributed well to the clubs well being
Hopefully we will employ a director of cricket from outside and he can then bring in his own people and pick the head coach
This had to be done and I’m sure the board realised this aswell
We need a totally new outlook at the club with everyone singing from the same hymn sheet
We need the 1993 team spirit back again with everyone supporting each other and walking through brick walls for the club
Let’s have the discipline back at the club and start playing like a cricket TEAM again
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By exileKT8
#26556
Agree with the sentiments written above. Like many others I`m sure, I would have loved to see a Welsh Coach enjoying good times at Glammy. However the Glamorgan`s current cricketing status and performance over the past 5 years, some South African inspired T20s aside have led to change being overdue I`m afraid. Very sad for RDBC who has been at the Club for nearly 30 years and I`m sure always gave his best for his Club and Wales, I wish him well for the future.
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By Shamu
#26557
Passionate and committed - excellent servant to Glamorgan. Alas, the writing was on the wall when he lost the dressing room earlier in the season. Sport is a results business these days with very little leeway to transition teams and develop players.

Having said that, there’s an old adage that rings true given the raw materials he had to work with - “ You cannot polish a turd” !

First job for the new incumbent will be to clear the deadwood from the dressing room. There is a glut of players in there presently who are not worthy of describing themselves as first class cricketers. I won’t name them publicly, but any self respecting cricket fan could identify 6-8 players on the staff who haven’t got a hope in hell of forging successful professional careers.
By lovecricket
#26558
First of all good luck to Crofty. What a guy, what a player and what an ambassador for Glam he has been. I remember when I was a Short Leg member meeting him after a game in Swansea when I'd just started youth cricket. He was only just starting out with the team but was brilliant with the fans even then. A cricketing hero of mine and I'm sad he's leaving the club. Him singing on the old balcony is my favourite memory.

As a spin bowling coach I'm sure he'll walk into a job at a bigger club, IPL team or International. A great innovator of our game. He also summed up the word guile as a cricketer.
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By lovecricket
#26559
Secondly. This was the only option given the current state of performances. We need a quality batting coach to work with the young players, this has been missing for a couple of seasons now. We need to stop the promotion of ex players into key coaching roles and employ a specialist head coach / DOC.

This season has been embarrassing. We haven't seen progression for the last 10 years it has been continuous decline. I guess if the money was available it would be invested in the coaches and playing staff we need. I can only presume that the money simply isn't there, I wonder if we should have gone into administration like others have to clear the debt then start again from the ground up. The whole thing is a massive mess. It is very sad and no end is in sight, I hope Mr Russell is very proud of what he's done to our amazing club.
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By johnwales
#26560
I believe a team makes a coach, rather than a coach makes a team !! If Robert had been the Surrey coach, would they have been champions ??

I also think that with 30 years loyal service to Glamorgan Robert should have been given another roll, perhaps even Director of Cricket.

I see Michael Carberry has left Leicestershire and is probably one of the few available international batsmen currently on the market, particularly with captaincy experience. Before Glamorgan go paranoid and appoint him; PLEASE REMEMBER he was sacked as captain by Leicestershire, and did not play for their first team since May !! Hardly a decent C V from a county little better than Glamorgan.
By psychocandy
#26561
Cracking servant to the club buts its the right move. Its not that we weren't great last season its the fact that for large parts of the season we didn't even compete with other sides. If there were 5 divisons, not 2 we'd have struggled in Div 5.
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By Vetchetarian
#26562
johnwales wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:05 am

I also think that with 30 years loyal service to Glamorgan Robert should have been given another roll, perhaps even Director of Cricket.
I'm not too sure about offering Croft an alternative position within the Club, since that would simply be rewarding failure, and doling out yet another 'job for the boy'.

A clean break is the way to go for all parties.

I only hope that the process of change hasn't now reached it's zenith, since other incumbents should follow Croft through the door, sooner, rather than later.
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By glamman
#26564
I wonder if Steve Rhodes is in contention? He obviously left Worcs under a slight cloud but had done a great job developing a team from mostly young local talent. He was critical of the Glamorgan selection policy when he brought Worcs to Sophia Gardens a few years ago so this would be an opportunity to show what could be done. I refuse to believe that young cricketers in Wales do not have the same potential to succeed as those from anywhere else in the country given the right environment.
I do not see anyone taking either of the jobs unless they are given the resources to make it work. I do not think Glamorgan are any worse off now financially than most of the counties. No one is going to come knowing that they cannot succeed and have their CV weakened.

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